Speaking out with Intention and Hope
Dec. 21st, 2009 12:37 pm![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png)
The days come in a variety of good, not so good, cheerful, chipper and downright gloomy; today is "eh", somewhere in the middle of all those. Let me 'splain, if I can.
And let me begin by wishing us all WELL!
Today is Yule and while it's not the beginning of the year, I can see it from here. Perhaps I'm weird but I've never been able to look at the Sabbats like everyone else does. A lot of things are ending but more are beginning. I'm trying to look at it as more of the beginning than an ending or maybe the end of the ending and beginning of the beginning of a new life. That made sense in my head.
I do know that hiding from the pain doesn't work; its still there. I know that walking through it is the only way to get through it. Pitching a tent doesn't work; you don't get anywhere. Back in '98 or so, Mary Omwake, former minister at Unity of Overland Park, said from the pulpit, "..though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil. You see, the operative word there is WALK! You don't pitch a tent, you keep walking." I love that quote, never have forgotten it; think of it often. It does, however, leave me being less than patient with those whom I feel are wallowing and not moving on. I know I process things quickly and recover quickly but I also take the time to feel my feelings as they come up; deal with them and move ON. I have to remember that everyone's process is their own and to try to be patient.
My wish for everyone is that you have a thoughtful, meaningful Yule or Christmas or Hannukah, whichever or whatever you celebrate. Don't get lost in the "oh, I have to buy (whatever) for (whomever)" or "I have to make (however many) cookies." No, you don't HAVE to; you don't have to do anything. Do what is meaningful to you, that will show love for those who mean something to you. Be loving and caring and grateful and SINCERE. Be the best of who you are with those you love. Be grateful for everything you have and are.
Having said that, let me clarify. Bruce and I are doing something very difficult here; ending a marriage as gracefully as we can. The ultimate goal being "don't be mean". We are still friends, we still love one another; we just can't live together anymore. Yes, this hurts and sucks on a lot of levels but it IS necessary; it really wasn't working as it was. We both need to get to a new place and start over and see what happens after that, for us individually, as a relationship and as a band.
I know a lot of you don't understand our process through this and have anger or frustrations. I ask you this with all sincerity; if you have a problem with Bruce, please talk with him about it. Don't ignore it or be passive aggressive about it; don't just unfriend him or ignore it all and let it go. And don't think that I am being a wimp or 'letting' Bruce dump me; this is not the case. Understanding and Growth is the goal here, not taking sides or sweeping feelings under the rug, for anybody.
Let me be clear about this; he is doing the right thing throughout this process. He has bought me a nice car and new tires for it. He is providing dental insurance for me. He is providing me with as much help as he can and doing without a lot in order to help me start over. We are in complete agreement on the details of this divorce and are happy to be so. YES, he started this and yes, it hurts but what is happening NEEDS to happen. Truth is, our relationship was on a bit of a pedestal for some people and that is always a dangerous place to be. If anything gets out of balance, the whole thing crashes. It will not help if everyone just treats Bruce as the bad guy here; he's not. And I have to say, anyone who can't keep up, can't process, can't find forgiveness and come to peace with this, is liable to be left behind as we build a more healthy relationship. I'm not trying to be mean here, but clear as I can be. We intend to make this work.
In some ways, his courage in speaking up is commendable, odd as that may seem coming from me. It's easy to cast blame and choose sides; it's harder to remain open and loving and understanding of BOTH of us; that's what I'm asking each of you to do, if you have ever cared about us. It is harder this way but it's what Bruce and I want, as we move forward through this process. I want to not lose track of his family, but I fear that is a vain hope. I don't think they've ever really known what to do with us. I know we will both move forward; we both hope that it is with all of our friendships intact, but that is as much up to each of you as it is up to us. It won't be for lack of trying on my part and on Bruce's part, I know this.
Things will get better; the long Winter will pass and Spring will be reborn. Hopefully, along with it, new lives will be started that will be healthy, successful, nurturing and from which more great joy will be born.
This is my hope and my wish, that we all move forward, lovingly, thoughtfully, productively and successfully.
Happy, blessed Yule to you all.
And yes, I made this post public on purpose; it's time the cards were all laid on the table. I'm screening comments so everyone can be as candid as they like. If you wish for me to NOT unscreen what you've said, please make that clear.
And let me begin by wishing us all WELL!
Today is Yule and while it's not the beginning of the year, I can see it from here. Perhaps I'm weird but I've never been able to look at the Sabbats like everyone else does. A lot of things are ending but more are beginning. I'm trying to look at it as more of the beginning than an ending or maybe the end of the ending and beginning of the beginning of a new life. That made sense in my head.
I do know that hiding from the pain doesn't work; its still there. I know that walking through it is the only way to get through it. Pitching a tent doesn't work; you don't get anywhere. Back in '98 or so, Mary Omwake, former minister at Unity of Overland Park, said from the pulpit, "..though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil. You see, the operative word there is WALK! You don't pitch a tent, you keep walking." I love that quote, never have forgotten it; think of it often. It does, however, leave me being less than patient with those whom I feel are wallowing and not moving on. I know I process things quickly and recover quickly but I also take the time to feel my feelings as they come up; deal with them and move ON. I have to remember that everyone's process is their own and to try to be patient.
My wish for everyone is that you have a thoughtful, meaningful Yule or Christmas or Hannukah, whichever or whatever you celebrate. Don't get lost in the "oh, I have to buy (whatever) for (whomever)" or "I have to make (however many) cookies." No, you don't HAVE to; you don't have to do anything. Do what is meaningful to you, that will show love for those who mean something to you. Be loving and caring and grateful and SINCERE. Be the best of who you are with those you love. Be grateful for everything you have and are.
Having said that, let me clarify. Bruce and I are doing something very difficult here; ending a marriage as gracefully as we can. The ultimate goal being "don't be mean". We are still friends, we still love one another; we just can't live together anymore. Yes, this hurts and sucks on a lot of levels but it IS necessary; it really wasn't working as it was. We both need to get to a new place and start over and see what happens after that, for us individually, as a relationship and as a band.
I know a lot of you don't understand our process through this and have anger or frustrations. I ask you this with all sincerity; if you have a problem with Bruce, please talk with him about it. Don't ignore it or be passive aggressive about it; don't just unfriend him or ignore it all and let it go. And don't think that I am being a wimp or 'letting' Bruce dump me; this is not the case. Understanding and Growth is the goal here, not taking sides or sweeping feelings under the rug, for anybody.
Let me be clear about this; he is doing the right thing throughout this process. He has bought me a nice car and new tires for it. He is providing dental insurance for me. He is providing me with as much help as he can and doing without a lot in order to help me start over. We are in complete agreement on the details of this divorce and are happy to be so. YES, he started this and yes, it hurts but what is happening NEEDS to happen. Truth is, our relationship was on a bit of a pedestal for some people and that is always a dangerous place to be. If anything gets out of balance, the whole thing crashes. It will not help if everyone just treats Bruce as the bad guy here; he's not. And I have to say, anyone who can't keep up, can't process, can't find forgiveness and come to peace with this, is liable to be left behind as we build a more healthy relationship. I'm not trying to be mean here, but clear as I can be. We intend to make this work.
In some ways, his courage in speaking up is commendable, odd as that may seem coming from me. It's easy to cast blame and choose sides; it's harder to remain open and loving and understanding of BOTH of us; that's what I'm asking each of you to do, if you have ever cared about us. It is harder this way but it's what Bruce and I want, as we move forward through this process. I want to not lose track of his family, but I fear that is a vain hope. I don't think they've ever really known what to do with us. I know we will both move forward; we both hope that it is with all of our friendships intact, but that is as much up to each of you as it is up to us. It won't be for lack of trying on my part and on Bruce's part, I know this.
Things will get better; the long Winter will pass and Spring will be reborn. Hopefully, along with it, new lives will be started that will be healthy, successful, nurturing and from which more great joy will be born.
This is my hope and my wish, that we all move forward, lovingly, thoughtfully, productively and successfully.
Happy, blessed Yule to you all.
And yes, I made this post public on purpose; it's time the cards were all laid on the table. I'm screening comments so everyone can be as candid as they like. If you wish for me to NOT unscreen what you've said, please make that clear.
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Date: 2009-12-21 07:13 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2009-12-21 07:16 pm (UTC)I definitely appreciate the offer; I hope to have some really good chats with a bunch of friends we'll see at Character Camp.
*HUGS*
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Date: 2009-12-21 07:27 pm (UTC)no subject
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Date: 2009-12-21 07:30 pm (UTC)i like the quote. i think i will have to have it done up in a button or something.......
as to the divorce....
some things to consider.. i know that you, of course, are seeing your divorce as about YOU and HIM and YOUR (mutual) relationship.... but for a lot of people its not.
for a lot of people its about their old boyfriends, or marriages, or their fears about their own relationships.. and they react from there.
also i know i have seen way to many cases where one side is seriously the "bad guy" and while this may not be the case here...you do tend to have habits (well i do anyway) and it can be easy to read the current situation in the light of prior experiences.
if someone does start going off..... i suggest both of you try to keep in mind that they may be dealing with their own fears... you know. the "but i thought YOUR marriage was like MINE.... and if you break up... what does that say about my future?" and they may not even realize it themselves.
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Date: 2009-12-21 07:32 pm (UTC)Those are very good points and very true. We both know that everyone has feelings about this whole thing; obviously, everyone is entitled to those feelings.
We just don't want to cause MORE damage and we want things to be healthier and happier in the future.
I hate being a statistic, dammit! ;>
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Date: 2009-12-21 07:31 pm (UTC)You and Bruce have to be the people that you are. And I can't imagine you two not being friends, although it can be hard early on.
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Date: 2009-12-21 07:34 pm (UTC)I just loathe things being "unspoken" and having to wonder; that's pretty much crap in my book.
It is hard, especially now. And I know it'll be another hard spot when I actually leave. Unavoidable, but better to have it all out in the open.
well said...
Date: 2009-12-21 07:39 pm (UTC)Looking back now- and it's been a year since the divorce, I see where things could have been different for my former husband and I. Sadly there were/are a lot of people from my own circle who did choose sides, cast the blame on me and couldn't forgive me when the shit hit the fan. My greatest wish for you and Bruce out of all of this, is a transition to your new lives free of all the negative things that come up in a situation like this.
As you said above, you wish for those relationships and friendships to stay intact and it's not from lack of effort on your part or Bruce's. I think when it comes to being such visible members of a community, as you and Bruce are,and being up on that proverbial pedestal, when things fall apart, it makes the fall off the same pedestal even more difficult for people to deal with. It adds another dynamic of not meeting the idea of what people wanted or expected you to be. And when your "humanness" is exposed for everyone to see, people in your life will either stick or fall away. It is their choice. And if they cannot deal with it, and do not continue on the journey with both of you, it is their loss, not yours. They weren't meant to be there. You can only do so much, ya know?
I admire you and Bruce as you both navigate the difficult waters a divorce can bring. It's not an easy road- but it all comes back to welcoming and embracing the change or resisting it. Resisting makes it all the harder.
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Date: 2009-12-21 07:46 pm (UTC)I find it very amusing that we were in the same church at the same time and didn't know one another. Heck, I may decide to start going back to church there when I move back up. I know I'm going to need to make myself get out so I don't become a hermit.
Not resisting change but rather, embracing it...that's the ticket.
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Date: 2009-12-21 07:58 pm (UTC)When I first heard about you and Bruce getting a divorce I was really devastated. The word divorce brings to mind hate and vitriol and negative energy. Witness the Baldwin/Basinger divorce proceedings for how I normally "see" such things.
Then I was reminded that the love need not die. And let's be real here, you and Bruce do love each other. Even my blind self can see that.
I love you and Bruce both and respect you both. No matter what happens, that won't change. As long as the love remains, hope remains. Hope for a happy future, hope for friendship and fellowship ... this is what that love will bring.
And you will both think of me when you shave your legs. It may take time but it will happen. I have faith. :)
*Hugs*
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Date: 2009-12-21 08:35 pm (UTC)*grin* I don't see Bruce shaving his legs any time soon. And I hardly ever need to, but there's always hope!
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Date: 2009-12-21 08:31 pm (UTC)But I'm a big advocate of PROGRESS. Life is more of a river than a lake, and it does no good to just clutch on to a branch to try to resist the current.
I look forward to talking more with you, you seem like someone I could relate to. :)
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Date: 2009-12-21 08:49 pm (UTC)Life is more of a river than a lake, and it does no good to just clutch on to a branch to try to resist the current. That is an awesome quote, it just might be my new tag line.
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Date: 2009-12-21 08:41 pm (UTC)(screen, unscreen, makes no nevermind to me)
I mentioned in another comment to you that a friend in Maryland is going through a similar thing, her mate no longer wanting to be with her. In his case, he found a poly substitute (though to my mind it's not poly, at least not ideally: more like him being selfish and having a mid-life I-can't-deal-with-being-married-let's fine-someone-to-distract-me crisis. And when I gave him a piece of my mind back in November, I said that I wasn't mad at him for breaking up the relationship: relationships fail all the time, I'm more surprised when they persevere, it's that complex. I was just angry that he was being a selfish jerk and hurting her unnecessarily by how he was going about it.
Point being: you and Bruce are shining icons of how to do a break up right. Sorry, but I'm afraid you both will be teetering up on that pedestal a while longer. :-)
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Date: 2009-12-21 08:47 pm (UTC)All we can do is try, day by day. That doesn't mean that there won't be days I'm not cussing at him or feeling sorry for myself; this is still a grieving process. But I'd rather set up positive future karma for myself than more of this pain and sorrow. This is the only way we can see to do it that doesn't cause more harm.
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Date: 2009-12-21 08:47 pm (UTC)Have a wonderful Yule, Susi! Much love from the cold North!
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Date: 2009-12-21 08:55 pm (UTC)Now I'm glad I kept the statue stuff; I may be getting back into it again. But I'd still love to have you meet my 2nd husband, the VodVill Klown; I think the two of you would hit it off, professionally.
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Date: 2009-12-21 10:32 pm (UTC)Sincerely
The Chocolate Satyr of the forest
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Date: 2009-12-21 10:34 pm (UTC)Thank you, dear.
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Date: 2009-12-21 11:00 pm (UTC)no subject
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Date: 2009-12-21 11:15 pm (UTC)May the days grow ever brighter for you both, in spirit as well as in terms of the season!
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Date: 2009-12-21 11:34 pm (UTC)I very much look forward to actually getting to meet you in "flesh space" sometime, who knows, maybe even next year!
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Date: 2009-12-21 11:53 pm (UTC)The both of you are always welcome here...
Much love from the south..
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Date: 2009-12-22 12:17 am (UTC)no subject
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Date: 2009-12-22 04:14 am (UTC)*hugs*
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Date: 2009-12-22 03:24 am (UTC)Cat and I are sorry we couldn't make it to the yule party, but we spent the day getting our house ready to host the X=mas party for her family ( her ENTIRE family, including her mother, 7 siblings, their spouses and kids... the house looked more full than it ever did at academies!)
At any rate, we love you and wish you a Happy Holidays and a blessed Yule! Take care of yourself, and we'll see you soon.
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Date: 2009-12-22 04:16 am (UTC)Love you both!
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Date: 2009-12-22 04:18 am (UTC)Happy Yule right back!
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Date: 2009-12-22 06:21 am (UTC)All I will say is:
I refuse to badmouth, slander, pick sides or grumble. I applaud your commitment to making a personal and private thing public with grace and poise. The choice to show the rest of us see what you feel is the best option for your marriage is very admirable. The courage it takes to lay it all out there for those of us that are not invested in the marriage is unbelievable. As awful as this process is, I hope your direction and determination will influence others in a similar situation to make better choices when it comes time to part ways. You both amaze me.
And that is why I love you both so much.
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Date: 2009-12-22 03:04 pm (UTC)When I made a commitment to "living right out loud" that has to apply to the hard stuff as well as the happy stuff. People are all too prone to gossip and drama; my take on it is to be as honest and up-front as possible. I've seen it done the other way and it sucked even worse, especially with faire folk, I'm sad to say.
I hate that we have to do it at all, but I can't see any healthier way to do it than this.
*hugs*
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Date: 2009-12-22 07:43 am (UTC)It was easy to place you guys on a pedestal, especially from a distance but I know what it's like to be up there. I'm offering support and love to both of you (and still hope to one day *meet* you both in person) for a hard time. I'm impressed that you're climbing down instead of waiting for things to fall apart. It's not often that we as people are willing to admit when things aren't how we want them to be.
My curiosity wants to know the "why" and the details (there are many reasons I'm known as Ferret) but I feel it's really not my place to ask as I tend to pop in and out randomly as time allows. My bigger concern is that you are both as well as can be and know that I still care for both you. Without being in the relationship, it's silly of me to assign blame, especially after you've asked us not to.
So warmest blesses and the best to you both in all things. *hugs*
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Date: 2009-12-24 06:36 am (UTC)*hug*
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Date: 2009-12-24 03:04 pm (UTC)*hug*